Dont think in this way for Mr Shahid he is nice man but I think he was trapped by a group of people and he started adovocating thier foolish idea without realising the out comes of sending money to any NGO or individual.Otherwise he put a lot of efforts in money collection compaign.He really supported President PANZ in the compaign even better than his own cabinit. Fayyaz
Mr Shahis azad is a very hard working and dedicated member of the community. He is a respectable person and is still spending most of his time doing work for the community. He does not have a personal agenda and is not here for his own benefit. I would just like to clarify this point. THAT IMTIAZ THE GENERAL SECRETARY HAS NOT USED A SINGLE DOLLAR OF THE PANZ MONEY FOR THE WORK HE IS CARRYING OUT IN PAKISTAN. And he is not trying to manipulate the campaign or get personal befenit. Knowing the type of person IMTIAZ is he will continue helping and spending his last dollar for the earthquake victims. Now its up to the PANZ President on how much faith and trust he has in his G. Secretary. May ALLAH guide us all .
Dear Respected Members of Community My Request is do not blame any one without any proof please try to avoid any baseless allegations this is time for our unity, our brothers and sisters are in need they looking upon us, so please help each other so we can help them hope everyone understand duty & responsibility's Naveed Hamid PANZ
Shahid AzadWe used to do some of community work in those days, doing 14th of AUG was big deal, we have had association at that time too, but our ambition were not very high, we were not organized like a organization we did few functions, formalities were alien to us Then Shahid Azad comes in PANZ as Vice President, he has seen ups and downs of community, and he went though lot of thick and thin. During his tenure of VP. PANZ went though triple death tragedy, he worked relentlessly to raise money to send these dead bodies back and also helped deceased families in PakistanA organized PANZ is Mr. Azad passion, which he tried to do it in past during his tenure as VP and President of PANZ During the donations campaigned for earthquakes victims in Pakistan, from day first Mr. Azad worked relentlessly to maximize donations, he is chief co coordinator PANZ donations campaign and responsible for all collection come from North, west, and centre, Sohni Dharti appreciate his time efforts and skills to organized and adopt such strategy, which was unknown to PANZ, he based himself in Imtiaz office. Where Sohni Dharti always find him gathering information and new ideas to maximize this donations campaign For most of our critics including myself, his forceful plead to sand this donations money to NGO was wrong, but this should not mean he has some political benefits or we should start doubting on his credibility and honesty without proof Shahid Azad is still standing tall, where is his critics, Mr. Abbasi. Who first criticized him on his thoughts, which is OK. But after criticize heavily Mr. Abbassi changed his I D clumsily, and finally so ashamed of his article, Mr Abassi find its better for him to delete his article. Which is silent say I am sorry Sohni Dharti hope Mr Abassi wil take it as man and will come with an apology .
Billa g you should have done this before as i was really upset that if we cant defend a person like shahid azad then we cant show our sincerity with the community we need more people like him rather to stop others by doing unnecessary criticism.thanx billa G.I really appreciate ur this gesture
Keep going. I am still standing on my position and will clearify everything and tell you the motives behind this compaign run by so-called cheif co-ordinator. Changing ID's is his idea and only job at the moment. Your file has been open Mr Azad.
Dear Abbasi, there is always a difference between war against enemies and criticism so please clarify are you fighting a war agaist one of your enemy at sohni dharti or you want to criticise weak point of Shahid Azar and give your opinion if we are not sure what we want to do our writings become slogan and threats instead of opinion.
Dear Fellows.... This eid was not a happy eid for us looking back at our brothers in pain due to october 8 disaster. I congratulate you anyway for the month of ramazan. Good to see fund transfering issue towards the solution. Soon Inshahallah funds will be transfererd to PRESIDENT OF PAKISTAN fund. For that I would like to thank two executives who realise the situation and PANZ future, which was previously been a game for some seniors. Who not only showed their immature behaviour but also tried to create some serious problems for the community.(They must have realised by now). My main concern was to joining the community's compaign force to run the compaign in an organised manner. And we have proven that we run the compaign successfully. This compaign had to end up with integrity, transperency, appriciation to kiwis who helped us and many others who financially or physically initiate their efforts towards the GOOD CAUSE. My intentions are not hidden like some people, niether I have any agenda in future like them. But by saying I have to promise you I will be against any decision no matter made by who which is not in the best interest of Pakistani community in new zealand and My country. Its very easy sometime to raise those political slogans and get the community's attention. As we all know that we have too many leaders in our community who want to play a little role and try to take all the credit. We have seen some good examples in this compaign.Take my words on that NOW THIS IS HISTORY. You will have to declare your HIDDEN AGENDA to the public otherwise I will. Unlike some people telling that this is my last day on board and say allah hafiz to sohni dharti I will give you company. In terms of alligation on myself, I never cared and got worried about that. I am not one of those who create new ID on behalf of G.S (G.S PANZ 20051). I am sure G.S wouldnt even know what has been written on his behalf. If I wouldnt take these issues on this board about these people I am sure we would have end up in big embarassment, legal issues relating AUDIT, TAX, and clarification to different govt departments and finally lose our integrity. We have to live in this country, grow our genration here, make some good example for them to follow and this compaign would be one of them. We have lost hundreds and thousands of lives in pakistan. Our Government is not that heartless not to see and help these people. Its not Pakistan's internal problem. Its a problem any country could face. There are lots of other walfare organisations working in these areas. We cannot campare our newly born infrastructure (Which was part of the plan by some people) to these organisations including Pakistan Army. Who can sustain in this process for long time. Let them do their work. You have done what ever you could do. Other communities look at you with respect and honour I hope you would like to keep it in the same manner. Thats all for Now. Allah Hafiz
anybody who advocates transfer of funds to any welfare organization is not selecting the best option but we are human beings we can some time take wrong options I think the most important thing is intention if any one's taking wrong option to take credit and money and put the organization in trouble he is a real culprit and we should not forgive him but if any one is doing it due to human error we should ignore it, I give you my assurance if any body did it with bad and corrupt intention I will never spare him even if he is my real brother.
dear hamwatano thanks God people have realised to give an end to the unnecessary debate and they are willing to give company to the forum by kicking others out from forum or any organization but they should keep in their minds that community is not sleeping they know who is wellwisher and who are Faslee batarey .So its good to leave this matter to community and concentrate on the second phase of fund raising.
with due respect please can you explain who is the community? if we are not the community to whom else we need to leave this matter I respect your opinion and you have every right not to agree with me but can I know? why you want to stop this debate? Are you covering the culprits or afraid of truth? I think it is the best time for innocent to prove their lots.
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You looks very bold, brave and truthful person in this tint we should resist any person who advocates the transfer of money to any individual behalf.
Dont think in this way for Mr Shahid he is nice man but I think he was trapped by a group of people and he started adovocating thier foolish idea without realising the out comes of sending money to any NGO or individual.Otherwise he put a lot of efforts in money collection compaign.He really supported President PANZ in the compaign even better than his own cabinit. Fayyaz
Mr Shahis azad is a very hard working and dedicated member of the community. He is a respectable person and is still spending most of his time doing work for the community. He does not have a personal agenda and is not here for his own benefit. I would just like to clarify this point. THAT IMTIAZ THE GENERAL SECRETARY HAS NOT USED A SINGLE DOLLAR OF THE PANZ MONEY FOR THE WORK HE IS CARRYING OUT IN PAKISTAN. And he is not trying to manipulate the campaign or get personal befenit. Knowing the type of person IMTIAZ is he will continue helping and spending his last dollar for the earthquake victims. Now its up to the PANZ President on how much faith and trust he has in his G. Secretary. May ALLAH guide us all .
Dear Respected Members of Community My Request is do not blame any one without any proof please try to avoid any baseless allegations this is time for our unity, our brothers and sisters are in need they looking upon us, so please help each other so we can help them hope everyone understand duty & responsibility's Naveed Hamid PANZ
Shahid Azad We used to do some of community work in those days, doing 14th of AUG was big deal, we have had association at that time too, but our ambition were not very high, we were not organized like a organization we did few functions, formalities were alien to us Then Shahid Azad comes in PANZ as Vice President, he has seen ups and downs of community, and he went though lot of thick and thin. During his tenure of VP. PANZ went though triple death tragedy, he worked relentlessly to raise money to send these dead bodies back and also helped deceased families in Pakistan A organized PANZ is Mr. Azad passion, which he tried to do it in past during his tenure as VP and President of PANZ During the donations campaigned for earthquakes victims in Pakistan, from day first Mr. Azad worked relentlessly to maximize donations, he is chief co coordinator PANZ donations campaign and responsible for all collection come from North, west, and centre, Sohni Dharti appreciate his time efforts and skills to organized and adopt such strategy, which was unknown to PANZ, he based himself in Imtiaz office. Where Sohni Dharti always find him gathering information and new ideas to maximize this donations campaign For most of our critics including myself, his forceful plead to sand this donations money to NGO was wrong, but this should not mean he has some political benefits or we should start doubting on his credibility and honesty without proof Shahid Azad is still standing tall, where is his critics, Mr. Abbasi. Who first criticized him on his thoughts, which is OK. But after criticize heavily Mr. Abbassi changed his I D clumsily, and finally so ashamed of his article, Mr Abassi find its better for him to delete his article. Which is silent say I am sorry Sohni Dharti hope Mr Abassi wil take it as man and will come with an apology .
Billa g you should have done this before as i was really upset that if we cant defend a person like shahid azad then we cant show our sincerity with the community we need more people like him rather to stop others by doing unnecessary criticism.thanx billa G.I really appreciate ur this gesture
Keep going. I am still standing on my position and will clearify everything and tell you the motives behind this compaign run by so-called cheif co-ordinator. Changing ID's is his idea and only job at the moment. Your file has been open Mr Azad.
Dear Abbasi, there is always a difference between war against enemies and criticism so please clarify are you fighting a war agaist one of your enemy at sohni dharti or you want to criticise weak point of Shahid Azar and give your opinion if we are not sure what we want to do our writings become slogan and threats instead of opinion.
Dear Fellows.... This eid was not a happy eid for us looking back at our brothers in pain due to october 8 disaster. I congratulate you anyway for the month of ramazan. Good to see fund transfering issue towards the solution. Soon Inshahallah funds will be transfererd to PRESIDENT OF PAKISTAN fund. For that I would like to thank two executives who realise the situation and PANZ future, which was previously been a game for some seniors. Who not only showed their immature behaviour but also tried to create some serious problems for the community.(They must have realised by now). My main concern was to joining the community's compaign force to run the compaign in an organised manner. And we have proven that we run the compaign successfully. This compaign had to end up with integrity, transperency, appriciation to kiwis who helped us and many others who financially or physically initiate their efforts towards the GOOD CAUSE. My intentions are not hidden like some people, niether I have any agenda in future like them. But by saying I have to promise you I will be against any decision no matter made by who which is not in the best interest of Pakistani community in new zealand and My country. Its very easy sometime to raise those political slogans and get the community's attention. As we all know that we have too many leaders in our community who want to play a little role and try to take all the credit. We have seen some good examples in this compaign.Take my words on that NOW THIS IS HISTORY. You will have to declare your HIDDEN AGENDA to the public otherwise I will. Unlike some people telling that this is my last day on board and say allah hafiz to sohni dharti I will give you company. In terms of alligation on myself, I never cared and got worried about that. I am not one of those who create new ID on behalf of G.S (G.S PANZ 20051). I am sure G.S wouldnt even know what has been written on his behalf. If I wouldnt take these issues on this board about these people I am sure we would have end up in big embarassment, legal issues relating AUDIT, TAX, and clarification to different govt departments and finally lose our integrity. We have to live in this country, grow our genration here, make some good example for them to follow and this compaign would be one of them. We have lost hundreds and thousands of lives in pakistan. Our Government is not that heartless not to see and help these people. Its not Pakistan's internal problem. Its a problem any country could face. There are lots of other walfare organisations working in these areas. We cannot campare our newly born infrastructure (Which was part of the plan by some people) to these organisations including Pakistan Army. Who can sustain in this process for long time. Let them do their work. You have done what ever you could do. Other communities look at you with respect and honour I hope you would like to keep it in the same manner. Thats all for Now. Allah Hafiz
anybody who advocates transfer of funds to any welfare organization is not selecting the best option but we are human beings we can some time take wrong options I think the most important thing is intention if any one's taking wrong option to take credit and money and put the organization in trouble he is a real culprit and we should not forgive him but if any one is doing it due to human error we should ignore it, I give you my assurance if any body did it with bad and corrupt intention I will never spare him even if he is my real brother.
dear hamwatano thanks God people have realised to give an end to the unnecessary debate and they are willing to give company to the forum by kicking others out from forum or any organization but they should keep in their minds that community is not sleeping they know who is wellwisher and who are Faslee batarey .So its good to leave this matter to community and concentrate on the second phase of fund raising.
with due respect please can you explain who is the community? if we are not the community to whom else we need to leave this matter I respect your opinion and you have every right not to agree with me but can I know? why you want to stop this debate? Are you covering the culprits or afraid of truth? I think it is the best time for innocent to prove their lots.
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