Thursday, December 1, 2005

In Heat Of Discussion

Sohni Dharti is full of lie, which has no media standard, every body is saying nonsense in name of Media, we have boycotted Sohni Dharti, because it is not doing any positive for community, Sohni Dharti should conform every news before its come on the board , these are the words came from G/S of PWCS, in heat of discussion , after DUA for Molana Malik Javaid ’s father in law

4 comments:

msmasood1 MSN said...

why people want to put conditions on piblic opinion or say? 1- They are afraid of truth or truth can hit them so they don't want to lose their present good position 2- They are afraid of certain people and want to stop their opinion or say so they support sensoring of opinion. 3- They are illiterate people and have nothing to say at the media so want to stop all the educated and enlightened people due to jealousy and inferiority complex.   Again and again some Lotas and Guli danda players are pushing this idea but sensible and sincere people are happy at public opinion.

pakveb MSN said...

What ensures a straight-forward and fruitful debate is a resolute search for truth, not allowing one’s own desires or the public’s to take control. A sensible person, Muslim or non-Muslim, is expected to seek truth and to avoid error sincerely. Most of the well-known Muslim scholars were very careful in this regard. Imam al-Shafi'i, for instance, used to say:  “I never talked with someone but sincerely wished that Allah keep him, protect him from sin and misdeed and guide him; and I never debated with someone but sincerely wished that we would come upon truth, regardless of whether he or I should be the one to think of it first.” Abu Hamid al-Ghazali says also in this connection: “Cooperation in seeking truth is inherent to religion, but sincerity in the pursuit of truth can be distinguished by certain conditions and signs. “A diligent seeker of truth may be compared to one who is looking for his lost camel.  “It would be immaterial for him if he or another person should be the one to find it. Likewise, a sincere truth-seeker would perceive his partner as a helper rather than an adversary, and would be grateful to him if he should guide him to truth.” In another place of volume 1 of Al-Ihya-ul-Uloom, Imam al-Ghazali (Rahmatullah alaih) says:  “Over-enthusiasm is a mark of corrupted scholars, even when the case they are defending is true. “By showing excessive enthusiasm for truth and their contempt of their opponents, the latter would be stimulated to retaliate and react in the same manner. They would be driven to stand for falsehood and to be true to the label attributed to them. “If the champions of truth had spoken kindly to them avoiding publicity and humiliation they would have succeeded in winning them over.  “But as it is, a person who enjoys a place of prestige is strongly inclined to preserve his position by attracting followers, and the only way to that is to boast and to attack or curse adversaries.” To conclude, A debate must be conducted fairly and calmly, without showing any excitement or roughness, and without compromising the chances of arriving at the truth.  Debaters should avoid spiteful argumentation and word play, as such behaviour poisons the atmosphere, arouses hostile attitudes and may well end in deadlock.

msmasood1 MSN said...

Islamic scholars comes after quran nobody is before quran and quran tells us two groups of people, one who are wrong doers and violaters but still have lot of capacity to mend their ways they commit mistakes but with the apprehenssion that its not good for them, for such people we have to be very polite and freindly, we should engage them in debate and help them to mend their ways. The second group of people are followers of Shatan and evil forces their hearts are stamped for evil, their ears are deaf and eyes are blind for such people we are not allowed tobe polite or friendly we have to fight with them we have to stop them, quran says following people are friends of shatan, Who forbid people to go to mosque or prayers Who murdered his brothers or fellowers directly or indirectly Who don't pay the right of people and take away their properties and belongings Who support injustic any way Who are Munafiqs   for such people we have to fight till thier defeat, and if we are not in a position to give them a defeat then we have to carry on our say till god will help us to defeat them I put one question here "if some body have been doing the business of selling job letters to the needy poeple, exploiting their situations taking away their hard earnd money sucking the blood of his kids" should we allow such people to lead the community ..............

billa_one MSN said...

Sohni Dharti , carry on regardless of these kind of remarks and sympathetic to those who wants to stay away form community affairs they start criticize Sohni Dharti because Sohni Dharti bring this issues up in front of community not only to discuss but to resolve issues through dialogues rather then "Badmashi" but if some people choose to stay silent it there choice Sohni Dharti will continued with its mission to bring up issues to community , nationally or internationally , we know most people don’t like criticism , if someone consider him as prominent in commty, he should face the questions and answer them to convinced community that they are right or tell community what is wrong , who is wrong , where is wrong instead of trying to cop out by saying Sohni Dharti is a leg puller. That why issues get imbalance because we don’t know your part of story or you don’t want to tell us or you don’t care . When Sohni Dharti asked to G /s of PWCS "why PWCS gave up its full grown and 2 months of preparations and well meteure 14 of august function " . Amir Khan G\S of PWCS replied " we did it because we were forced by senior members of community our program was all set and there was no place for PANZ to fit in so for the best interest of community we decided to give whole function in favour of PANZ .